All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Twelve – Battle Stations

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on ! 

Chapter Twelve – Battle Station – 1:50:58 -2:03:49

James Greer asks were the torpedo has come from and we are showing a shot of a Russian submarine running to intercept the red october it turns out there fired a torpedo but missed as their settings were wrong, We then cut to the Red October with Ramius giving orders to get the Mimi sub off his boat (again he appears to be speaking English) The Doctor and the other crew believe Ramius is now fighting the Americans for his life.

Back on the October Ramius tells Borodin to take fire control and then tells Ryan to take the helm, Ryan is very quick to point out that he’s CIA not navy but Ramius makes him sit anyway explaining want he needs him to do. Jones takes the sonar giving the Position of the Russian submarine.

Ramius shows Ryan which buttons and dials to make the Maneuvers he needs to Back on the Dallas they switch to battle stations and make the same maneuver, the new torpedo is heading for the October Ramius orders Ryan to move towards it. Mancuso tells Ryan not to do this but Ryan goes a head and follows Ramius both the crew of the Dallas and Mancuso can’t believe it.

Ramius still wants more power heading towards the torpedo, on the Dallas the COB now acting captain asks for a firing solution for the second Russian submarine but he’s told he can’t have one because the Russians did not attack the Americans the torpedo still continues its course towards the Red October at everybody apart from ramius becomes nervous.

In fact Ramius calmly asks Ryan what kind of books he wrote taking a back a little Ryan answers to question and it turns out that Ramius knows about the book The torpedo hits the Red October but does not explode Ryan turns to Mancuso and asks what happened and Mancuso tells him that by turning into the torpedo Heath close to the distance between it and it’s self harming mechanism which therefore it came non active. Ramius says that captain of the Russian submarine will now be removing the mechanism so as soon as the fire another torpedo it will be active

Ramius is about to give another order when two shots are find across the room and hit the control panel and everybody get down on the floor, Borodin is now dead Either by the ricochet from the control panel or with a bullet. His last words are that he wishes to see Montana. Ramius is lost for words

Then there is the sound of bleeping from a secondary control panel and one of the crew members points out to ramius that the missile in one of the silos is being harmed by the guy who was shooting the gun. Ramius gives comand of the Red October over to Mancuso and goes after the shooting as he does so Mancuso hands over his side arm.

On the Russian submarine there are doing just want Ramius said removing the the safety of the torpedoes and they head deeper into the submarine Ryan and Ramius are shot at once again Ramius getting hit, Ryan then goes after the guy leaving Ramius

The Russian now have the torpedos free and start to make the turn to face the Red October, Mancuso tells the conn officer to get the counter Measures ready, Ryan climbs on to the catwalk as he does so he makes a joke Repeated what ramius talking about shooting bullets. He drops a light from the catwalk and this makes the shoot fire wide hitting a water pipe in turn coveing Ryan.

The Russian submarine is now facing the Red October and the captain gives the order to fire but the office tells him they are to close so the captain presses the button himself, the torpedo is away. Everyone on the Red October braces themselves but the Dallas moves in from the left making noise so the torpedo follows them and as they hit the Surface of the ocean they released countermeasures. It works and the torpedo turns and heads back the way it came.

Ryan is still hunting the shooter, he able to get behind him, its the cook Ryan see him holding two wires in Russian he tells him “Captain scared’em out of the water” the two men Stare at each other for a few seconds then opens up and puts three bullets into the gentleman.

The torpedo is still coming as Ryan and Ramius make it back to the bridge Mancuso is heading towards the other Russian submarine with torpedo behind them, Mancuso gives the order and pulls to the right the torpedo hit the Russian submarine and blows up.  the Red October crew in the boats thinks its Ramius.

The differences between the book and film – We shall start with the crew of the Red October, there are left out in the cold, in the book there are taken aboard one the ship feed and then put on airplane taken though the streets of Washington DC. But will still do get them believing Ramius is trying to save them from the Americas.

However on the inside of the October is were things do Depart quite rapidly from the text. We have the gun man but in the book he’s found in the lowest part of the October he doesn’t go towards the new people on the bridge, we also have the death of Borodin here which doesn’t happen in fact, He takes over when Ramius is shot and we get the doctor flying out to save him, 

The fight between the ships is almost the same but the Surface ships are not used just there to witness and save the Russian crewmen

What I think – I can understand why the rescuing of the Russian crew doesn’t take place or if it does it’s done off screen as the budget would have not stretched to several exterior shots and several extra ships, and you don’t kill your main lead in a film of this type but why can’t understand is why they didn’t still have the conversation between Jonesy and the sonar operator of the red october because that does show the differences between the technology and the culture.

We do finally get to see Jack Ryan as the hero peace but it is somewhat reluctantly because he stares down the Russian cook before opening his pistol side arm on him, which in the book is quite a laborious Effort on Jack Ryan’s party but here is done by a couple of quick glances and a shot or so of the torpedo as heads towards the Red October.

All in all it is a good simpler version of the chapter in the book and does even though missing out several key points and killing off a character which is unnecessary in my view, We have the safe Rescue and retrieval of the red October’s crew and The defection of her offices

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for the last chapter on this DVD and the end of the flim Home Free. 


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All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Eleven – East Meets West.

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Eleven –  East Meets West– 1:43:44 – 

On the Dallas they launched the little submersible vehicle with Captain Mancuso, Jack Ryan and Jonesy inside as well as two other un-named crewmen, On the water above the Russian crew are picked up by the war ship, Jack watches Mancuso check his firearm, but says nothing they dock, Mancuso gives Jack a gun at first he refuses to take it but then two seconds later after Mancuso explains is Jack willing to bet his own life Jack pockets the side arm. They knock on the outer hatch are the first person they see says just one word Americans then heads back down letting them in, Speaking Russian as he does.

They follow him but don’t understand him, They enter the bridge and find Ramius and the officers standing the only light and sound come from the ticking of the lights as the flick from red to white, Borodin gives the order in Russian an engineer the lights back on,Jack then with hand gestures asks the engineer for a cigarette, with the use of subtitles the engineer tells the audience and the crew that Jack is now turning green.

Ramius then notices that Mancuso is wearing a sidearm and though the side of him mouth tells Borodin in Russian says he looks like a cowboy. And Jack then tells Mancuso this Ramius asks Jack if he speaks Russian a little Jack says, Jack tells him that they met once a long time ago when his wife was still alive and apologizes for her death.

Ramius then asks why it was important that the Americans fired on his ship, Mancuso asks Ryan to translate and Ryan explains it had to appear to the crew that the ship was sunk ramius then asks that his crew are being rescue. And Jack tells him yes they are.

Ramius works out that it was Jack that sent the signal truly new that they’re reactor breakdown was was staged and Jack replies it was the only logical option to get the crew off, ramius moves to the centre of the bridge and hands Over Control of ballistic missile submarine Red October to Captain Mancuso, ( it’s not clear at this point when ramius start speaking English because that Mancuso replies to him and says it’s pleasure)

Overhead suddenly there is a sound of a whistling which grows ever louder one of the officers knows it’s a torpedo and thinks it’s the Americans shooting at them, Jones search the pictures to hyannis is Russian. quick cut to the in the film and we are back on the washer as James Greer asks where the hell that top it up came from.

The differences between the book and the film – One very noticeable difference in this entire chapter is the lack of a British officer in the book we have Jack Ryan asked to use one of the British officers on board the warship who can just about speak Russian, there is a little back and forth with both the CIA and the president as Jack’s request goes through it is even stated that is nothing to do with the British and if anything goes wrong they will deny all knowledge.

But here we have an extremely simplified Version Of Events it is Jack Ryan that is the Russian translator and is accompanied by the captain and the sonar officer of the Dallas, also I believe in the book Jack Ryan puts a sidearm on before entering the minisub which attaches to the red october however he takes several minutes and has to be convinced to take a weapon with him.

There is also in the book the joke about the multi-million-pound submarine and the $10, I think used to communicate through the bulkheads was the mini sub has docked with the Red October here it’s just played out as if it is a normal everyday occurrence to bang on the outside of a submarine with a sledgehammer.

What I Think – this chapter does exactly what you expected to do East Meets West Captain Ramius meets Captain Mancuso nice and easy nice and simple however where it does fall down it’s the Russian we know that all the crew on the red october only speak Russian it has been established within the context of the film Jack Ryan is the only one of the American crew to be able to understand them and there is a little back and forth where it is established he is doing this, however towards the end of the sea ramius walks up to Captain Mancuso with his hand outstretched and in English or with Ramius speaking the words hand over control of the Red October. And Mancuso saying thank you.

What we know he can’t be speaking English because Jack Ryan had to translate the word buckaroo into the word cowboy now if Ramius is could speak English this entire time why would Ryan have to translate at all.
In my opinion it would have been better if the sonar operator Jones was the translater or at least be able to understand in the same way Jack Ryan does so you would have two people not just the CIA specialist.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter twelve Battle Stations. 


All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Ten – Periscope Depth

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Ten- Periscope Depth – 1:32:57 – 1:43:44

The Red October and the Dallas break the surface of the water and Ramius looks though his periscope on the Dallas Mancuso is doing the same he asks Ryan want he wants to say, Mancuso sends the message to Ramius who is taken back and replys with one ping only, Ryan quickly works out something to tell Ramius, Mancuso thinks he’s out of his mind.
As Mancuso sends the message he asks Ryan how he knew Ramius was going to go starboard Ryan tells him it was 50/50 guess.


Ramius sees the message and sends yet another ping, Ryan knows the Russian want to sink the October and that they may have to do just that.
Walking away from the periscope Ramius tells the crew they most go south he shows Borodin on the maps the same place Ryan told Mancuso to send, as they head there Ramius gives his chief engineer a look.

In green letters we are now at the Grand Bank’s just north of laurentian Abyssal its now 20 hours later

The reactor on the Red October which is critical mass and alarms begin to sound, the coolant system has been contaminated and there is no way to vent it out as a ventilation shaft and ventilation unit has been compromised the doctor believes it may have happened when the Caterpillar drive was sabotaged. Ramius mouse to surface the ship so we can you circulate the air for the doctor believes that the catastrophic failure of the coolant system has contaminated dealership and it is in fact Sabotage but once again ramius does not believe this.

Then Borodin takes the doctor’s side and reluctantly ramius surfaces the ship and evacuates the men to the deck.They now using the rafts and waiting for the Russian Fleet to arrive. However when they reach the surface Borodin sees American warship telling them to remain on the surface are there will be fired upon, ramius takes a few seconds to think and then turns to the doctor, has the doctor to take the man off the ship into the rafts and the officers will go back into the ship submerge and then scuttle it.

The American warship sees this and the caption orders a shot to be fired above the bow of the submarine on the ship a helicopter takes off, and drops a missile into the water and the Russians watch it back in the control room a hand reaches down to the panel and at 200 yards the the missile is automatically self-destructive standing above the control panel is Admiral Greer to his side is Skip Tyler, he Giving orders to the Dallas.

Differences between the book and the film – 

The biggest differences are all the things that went on behind the scenes for example Admiral Greer and skip Tyler being on the warship that is able to track the red october is she surfaces, In the book there is an explanation of how they are able to do that with the two helicopter flights, and the near miss of the F22 as it heads home, but here with now have Admiral Greer on the war ship giving the same orders he did in the book, With a few minor changes.

As for our three main stages of operation the Red October,the Dallas and the British ship that took Ryan aboard, we seem to have lost the British ship no longer tails the Dallas in fact it is nowhere to be seen, the two remaining fly out that parts just as the book only minus the cob of the boat in fact the only four remaining characters are captain Marko ramius, captain Borodin, Jack Ryan and Captain Mancuso the doctor of the Red October however does make an appearance but only just after the critical moments, he used to text here is also quite evident as 20 hours have passed during the initial contact with each other and Ryan’s madcap idea of ordering the Red October in to a certain place.

What I Think – As I always said this film is not like most of the 1980s blockbuster films it’s more cerebral than that we have one man working through a system as he tries to help another man defect. There are lot of a long pauses and a lot of quick cuts to people actually working but not explaining in simple terms what they are doing the best example of this is the exchange between the chief engineer about the Red October and Ramius, at the height of telling somebody what to do he glances over at the chief engineer and all he has to do is slightly mad and the engineer understand completely his next move with a modern day or equivalent film of that era you would have to have words used but here simple actions take their place,

In fact much of the dialogue from the book if dialogue is needed is used in full, the exchange between Ryan and Mancuso as they send the signal to ramius to the Periscope is almost completely there in even the joke about the playboy bunny measurements is left in how that would go down with a contemporary audience these days I wouldn’t know but it there all the same.

There are a few interesting bits missing out like how did Admiral Greer and skip Tyler get to the American warship and how is the American warship able to track the Red October did it get its information from the Dallas or has it been watching radar read out all this time thanks to the help of Jonesy on the Dallas.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter eleven East meets West, 

All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Nine – Rendezvous

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Nine – Rendezvous –  1:22:51 – 1:32:57

The crew of the Dallas get the now almost drowned Ryan on board, but Captain Mancuso is not impressed,

One quick cut and we are back with the Russian ambassador, who is now telling the Americans that the first report about the missing submarine was totally acute, they are saying he’s had brakedown and he’s going to fire his missiles on the US.They want help to kill everyone on the Red October.

Back on the Dallas Mancuso says they have all really found the Red October but had brake off the come and get Ryan, He wants to know if they can find him again want are they meant to do. Just as Ryan is about answer there call on the emergency radio, Mancuso sends someone to get the message and Ryan tells him the name of the submarine and that Ramius and the other officers wish to defect, the message is saying want the Russian ambassador said.

Mancuso heads to the con, and Ryan is given dry clothes,The Dallas is then put on battle stations,they dive deep and Jonesy makes contact and they follow, Ryan asks Mancuso to listen to him, Mancuso gives Ryan four minutes the time it will take to reach the Red October.

Ryan explains want he knows, but Mancuso still goes thorough with battle plan, until Ryan tells him that Ramius makes Crazy Ivans at set time, Mancuso then calls a armed office to the con Ryan asks if there is anyway way to contact the October without breaking orders, Jonesy tells Mancuso that the Red October is turning Mancuso asks which way.Ryan is right. Mancuso calls all stop.

The Red October can hear them now and Ramius is told they have open their missile doors, Ramius orders the same but locks the firing solution into the computer but leaves the doors on the missiles shut.

Back on the Dallas Mancuso asks Jonesy want is the October doing he’s told is heading it’s to periscope depth have a look around, Mancuso then asks if there any other targets around to which the reply is no they are not so he makes the depth of their summer in 65 feet.

Differences between the book and the film – Once again the differences between the book and a film at the fact that many of the characters are missing the entire mission with the doctor on the rescue of the previous smallest submarine is missing, 

All ambassador the interrogating or being interrogated by the president of the United States is also missing the pacing seems a bit quicker as well we cut back to the Dallas and to the Red October in the same way as the book yet most of the words that are spoken have been taken out and in fact two seasons are purely hand gestures by both captains.

What is the same however Ryan’s reaction to being on the small Submarine we see him first being terrified and then almost fighting for his life and his justification for being there, and Mancuso is also less open to hearing Ryan’s idea

What I think – Like I said before this film is not your average Blockbuster of the time there is not a Explosion every 5 minutes as it’s something like Die Hard would be here it is a more cerebral storyline in fact quite a lot of the book can be played out just by Simple hand gestures or two lines but we do have the same beats but not necessarily by the same people, but they are there to drive the story forward. We have gone from being in the wide open CIA Headquarters to the small submarines which gives the flim a lot more Believable atmosphere if we could kept moving around it would have been harder to understand.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter ten called Periscope Depth.


All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Eight- Carzy Ivans 

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Eight- Carzy Ivans –  1:08:21- 1:22:51

We are back with Jack as he’s washing and shaving talking out loud to himself, he works out that Ramius has already come up with a way to get his crew off the Red October all he has to do is work out that maybe. They want to get so how do get crew of submarine what to get off. Jack goes to see the captain of the boat but on the bridge there an emergency, there is fighter jet which has damaged it landing gear. 
As Jack waits the XO tells him the Russian navy are not really looking and searching for the red october they are trying to drive him into a certain position, as the XO and the captain talk about the jet, Ryan plays with the computer map and is shown the Dallas and ask who or what its the Captain tells him is Mancos boat and they have been picking up seismic activity on red route One, Ryan asks if there is anyway they can get him on to her.
The Captain tells Ryan the only way to get in there would be to turn a helicopter into a flying gas can, the jet clips the side of the ship and explodes into a thousand different shades, the XO,Ryan and the Captain head the flight deck the next thing we see is Ryan being strapped into helicopter jumpsuit and XO telling him when he gets there the Dallas might not even be there but they are trying to get the message to her.

The helicopter takes off and the flim dissolves the inside of the Dallas, Jones is working the sonar control the COB is taking to the other guy there when Jones holds up his hand, the seem then shows the Dallas moving ahead with the Red October behind and Borodin telling Ramius routine cleaning at the baffles and the fact the Caterpillar drivers back up and running but the crew know about the Saboteur.
Borodin tells can make it to a certain place and let the crew off, but room is pointing out that most of the crew will freeze to death before they rescue so it’s Massachusetts or Maine. Bordin’s next question is whether the Americans live in Montana, he then paints pictures of his soon-to-be life, and then the Red October makes the turning

On Dallas Jones hears the movement change and the Dallas crew react to the crazy Ivan, the guy ask Jones what going on and he tells him at Russian captains perform this manoeuvre to make sure there is nobody behind them.They have to run silent so the Russians don’t know they are there, As this happens Ramius tells Borodin want he misses is the peace of the simplest fishing.

Jones tells the captain the Red October is moving back to its original position as he does so another crew member shows the captain a message out of the printer, Wide shoot of rain filled sky overhead, almost reached that no return point but they have a reserve of 10 mins Ryan then pleads with the pilot to stay here 10 more minutes but before he can answer the spotter notices a contact on the water’s surface.
Both the helicopter crew and the crew begin to prepare for Ryan to jump on the cable down first try Ryan clips himself on the con tower and the crew of the helicopter try to really back in rhyme pushes himself off and between the space in the air releases his clip on the cable and fall straight into the sea.

The differences between the book and the film.
Now the difference is this time quite huge we’ve lost all the back and forth between the president aids and the members of the CIA task force as well as a lot of the history of those characters in fact many of the characters are not appearing here, and it would appear that Ryan is making up a lot of this in his own head Rather than taking orders from Admiral and the backup from CIA headquarters. But want they have kept is the backstory for Borodin which is a nice little thing, it goes a little way in exploring and explaining the state of the Russian working people.

What I Think – I am not sure that flim knows want is wants to be first’s not your typical 1980 Blockbuster film there are not any rapid fast moving cuts from one sequence to the other it’s a slower paced action adventure story, we have Alternative chapters 1 showing action and the other showing the cerebral workings of each characters mind and then a transition into the next one, This chapter is a prime example of that begins with Jack Ryan character working out that ramius has already a plan to take the crew off the ship, We then get the action sequence with the plane and it’s malfunctioning landing gear and Ryan’s quick rapid run to the Dallas

Then the slow back and forth between each crew of both the Dallas and the red october itself until then Ryan unceremonious trip into the water.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter nine called Rendezvous.


All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Seven- Evasive Action

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Seven- Evasive Action –  1:02:47 -1:08:21

The screen goes white and then in green letters we are given the information are foxtrot 692 Soviet anti submarine aircraft south of Iceland, as the camera tracks out we are shown the interior of the aircraft there are several people working at each control panel, Back on the red october Ramius he’s talking to the engineer and says his entire strategy depends on then getting the caterpillar drive back up and running is interrupted however by one of the sauna operators telling them that they have been overflown by an aircraft.
Ramius used cars for battle stations, as they have run out of time for another strategy and orders countermeasures to be released.

The radar operator on the plane bequests permission to drop a missile into the water and permission is granted by the captain of the Raider plane the torpedo hits the water and the sonar operator tells ramius it is now active, and He orders countermeasures to be launched.

One of the crew members questions Ramius orders about the countermeasures not working and the fact that they have no room to manoeuvre the red october through the canyon the torpedoes then runs straight through the counter measures and then reacquires then.


As torpedo closes in on them and they make their way down through the cavernous seabed Ramius still delays the order for turning by several seconds and the crew member who questioned Ramius requests that Borodin gives the order to make the turn but he doesn’t,


Several more seconds go by and nobody says anything, Then Ramius gives the order to sound collision and then the order to make the turn, frantically the crew carry out his orders as the torpedo slowly closes in.
The torpedo hits the wall and the crew of the October are very shaken up, and one member of the crew yells out that they really shooting at us and questions why Borodin tells him if they were really shooting at them they would dead by now.

Deep in the engine room, The problem with the Caterpillar Drive has been found someone has took out the buffer circuit and it was only a matter of time that it would Go critical and cause catastrophic failure work has been carried out by somebody that knew that it would not be easy to find in simple words they have a Saboteur aboard, Ramius knows It can’t be one of his officers as they had all the time in the world to do it before they see it must be one of the crew the orders Borodin  to look in the political officers quarters at his files.

The differences between book and film –
Are the differences are quite strong we do not get the whole Russian Navy sending coded communication between each one and the laying of the sonar buoys we have in fact one loan plane and a trader contact with the red october which causes, the some problems. And several of the crew to question Ramius as he deals with the torpedo, also missing is the painstaking work carried out by the engineers on the Caterpillar drive as they find out the saboteur work, here we are shown a broken piece of equipment and Ramius talking about having to take the crew off sooner than he planned.

What I Think –
It may be a more condensed version of what several chapters of the book would do but here for me it works better it shows ramius at odds with not only the Russian military machine but also several members of his crew the people that question him are not jis offices, they are his younger crew members and several pages of dialogue are removed simply with the look each one of them give him, At the end of the torpedo run. We even see him work out is next move when he finds out the caterpillar Drive has been sabotaged.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter eight  called Carzy Ivans 


All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Six-Thor’s Twins.

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Six – Thor’s Twins – 0:49:42 – 1:02:47
On the Dallas Jones’s he takes his tape machine to the captain and explains that he’s washed the sound that he heard through the computer a few times, on the tape there is the sound of humming the computer thinks it Magma displacement, at 10× Speed the sound comes that of a man-made engine, Captain Mancuso takes more Interest when Jones shows him a map of each for contact points, called red route one. he then draws a line showing the course of the sound which lead all the way through a place called Thor’s Twins.

Captain Mancuso tells the other crew member to plot a course round red route one so they can intercept the submarine and then tells John see if he can get close enough would he be able to track them to which Jones he replies yes now he knows what to listen for.

Back on the Enterprise Ryan has told his story to both the captain and his other officer both men are having a hard time believing the whole this, And the idea of inspecting the submarine if and when it appears would not wash or work in fact the whole thing would take several months not at all weeks Jack then says well we have to keep it, They have to do it in such a way that they beleave the boat has been destroyed of the Americans don’t have it but you can’t just eliminate crew. A little bit beat up Ryan stops trying drive home the point about the boat captain of the ship decides it’s time for Ryan to sleep and tells him to go and see the COB who will fix him up. When Ryan leaves the room both talk the captains officer doesn’t like the idea and even worse it’s Ryan is wearing uniform, but the captain puts that Ryan once was navy but an accident caused him to break both legs and did his fourth year from the hospital.

The screen fades to black and then becomes the sea again and we are on the red october once more. The entire ship is on silent Running and they are passing through Thor’s twins, they begin to make runs though red route one. All time Ramius has remind in his quarters until they begin the first turn. But as they do he ordered them to increase speed. The crewmen whisper among themselves even to Borodin that they are going to fast, They make it through the second turn but cryogenic tank on the engine fails, Dr Petrov what’s to know if there is any radiation leakage, they have to shut down the Caterpillar drive and become a live sound target with the original engines the members of the crew in fact borodin himself does not like the idea.

Quick cut and we are the office of the man who head chairman ship of the meeting Jeffrey Pelt ( Richard Jordan) Jack speaker across from him is ambassador Andrei Lysenko (played by Joss Ackland) it would appear that have been talking about navy activity, the Ambassador denied all knowledge of the exercise but the guy behind the desk says they have dropped it off sonar poems for a man to walk across from Iceland to Greenland to Scotland without getting his feet wet. The Ambassador then says they have lost a submarine many of the offices are sons of very high party members. Pelt then changing his tone of voice offers help, Which the ambassador is unsure about but he pass on the suggestion.

 Differences between the book and the film – Major differences between the book and the film this time the lack of characters we are missing three to my knowledge the doctor who is called in when the Russian submarine needs rescuing and most significantly the entire scene for that and then the presidential address in the White House to the Russian ambassador himself, It is the after the first submarines lost it becomes The Catalyst for the Russian ambassador go and visit the president and we have pages of it but here we just have the Russian ambassador in Jeffrey Pelt’s office )the chairman of the meeting that Ryan was the main speaker at) questioning the ambassador.

Also the Sabotage of the reaction on the Red October does not appear to be what it claims it is not through Sabotage this time the reactor shutdown it is through the sheer minded captain ramius pushing the system as they make their way though red route one which causes them to take it offline.

The scenes with Jonesy and his captain play out quite beat for beat as in the book and once again it is teamwork then works the chain of command here and not one giving orders.

What I Think – Now for one thing that I think the film gets right and the book struggles with the first submarine accident in the book there is a submarine accident not the Red October and not any of the following ships that were sent to find her. She ends up hitting the bottom of the sea bed and the Americans are able to rescue one member of her crew the Russians are then called, To have a representative meet the president of the United States and then the president office help in finding the Red October

That all services to confuse a muddy the waters someone in the book now one downed submarine, one submarine that wishes to defect, and the rest of the Russian Navy trying to work out whether the downed submarine is in fact the Red October or is just a tragic accident. Plus trying to cover up everything from the Americans.

Here the film simplifies a lot of things, You have one submarine the red october wishing to defect you had the Russian Navy training her and Jeffrey Pelt asking the ambassador want the help is going on, the Russians lie just as in the book but it’s simple. And Ryan Still have to justify his actions to the captain of the Enterprise. Just three things not four or five happening all at once.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for this week, But always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter seven called Evasive Action.



All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Five- Sub Plots

The following blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Five  – Ryan’s Sub Plots – 0:41:23 – 0:49:42

On the screen in green letters the words SSN Konovalov Captain Tupolov commanding and grid reference are shown, We then head into the submarine and a computer print is ripped out a printer by Captain Tupolov when.he’s read the page he pulls a map.from the table looks it over and then get submarine to change course.
He not happy about his orders beeing seven hours old lighting a cigarette he get the officers around him to check status of his vessel, under his breath he repeats himself “7 hours the entire bloody fleet is after him” He then orders the reactor to work and be pushed 105%, the office then ask why and were they are going to which his reply is we’re going to kill a friend we are going kill Ramius,

The Dallas Jones is sitting his little alcove headphones on listening to the tapes stop and starting them ever few seconds

The Red October all the officers are eating taking their food from a table at one end of the room, The Doctor is talking very loud, Ramius nods towards Borodin who then asks the Doctor if the latest figures the batch of radiation tests, he looks down at the plate and answers Now and Borodin also says now and the Doctor leaves the room. Borodin locks the door as he leaves, joining the others around the table. One of the men ask did the Political officer really slip on his tea, but Ramius goes on eating and the question goes unanswered. Borodin says that what would they think the political officer go away and sluck as they carried out that plans a few of the people around the table do not like this but the man who asked the question has no problem with it.

All the men around the table start arguing among themselves and One Gentleman says why don’t they just go back, to which Ramius tells them there is no going back because of the letter all the men around the table even Borodin is shocked. Ramius says when Cortez found a new world burnt the boats so his men would be well motivated. Half the men think they’re going to be found and the other half know when they are they will be killed. the first man who asked the question thinks the reason Ramius sent the letter was he’s ego.

But Ramius says everyone has their reasons, his started the day he was given the plans the Red October as for the rest he alone with carry with him, he gives himself one change in three they will be able beat their own navy and dismiss them.

When the men have left Borodin says it would have been better if he’d not told Moscow of their plan, But Ramius doesn’t see the navy as the problem is the Americas if meet the right kind the plan with will but if they meet some buckaroo. 

We then see Ryan Strap down in a helicopter seat shaking, as it flies though the night Over the sound of rattling and the engine the copilot begins to tell Jack about the crew being sick as they flew into hail storm they land on the USS Enterprise in the North Atlantic east of Nova Scotia thanks to the little  green letters, Jack is shown walking with another man into the captain office. Ryan then apologises to be dressed and naval uniform it being admiral Greer idea the captain then asks Ryan what’s going on.

The differences between the book and film 
There not that big of a shift this time around in the flim, only they happen in the wrong order Jack Ryan has already left for the British war ship even before Ramius talks to his crew and tells them about the letter. And its Captain Tupolev who moves first. 

The war room scene plays out pretty much the same way the Doctor is asked to carry an unnecessary task just to get him out of the way and Ramius tells his men about the letter. Here things are slow once again unlike the Americas were its all jumping up and down, Ramius holds the men even when they all talk at once all he has to do is look at them and they fall back into line.

What I Think
Once again we have gone from the Blockbuster movie countdown to the deep and detailed beats of the book, Ramius is shown as man who is always in control can think three or four steps ahead of the people around him, there is even the repeat of the cowboy line from the book, only we are shown Jack Ryan not the America Admirals and their gun ho attitude. However we have established that Ryan is the hero of the story and not the people around him with the exception that Jonesy the sonar man for the Dallas is almost a carbon copy of his book counterpart and the fact that we keep coming back to him however small his seems maybe the one where he’s just playing tape and there is no dialogue does provide us with a insight to working mind of the man.

So that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for is week, its a little shorter that last week but think that because is almost the book played out on screen, But always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter six called Thor’s Twins.


 

All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Four – Ryan’s Briefing.

The following  blog has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Four  – Ryan’s Briefing – 0:32:06 – 0:41:23

Greer is waiting for Ryan outside a unknown building, We have shot of the white house in the background and follow Ryan as he walks inside

Ryan asks Greer exactly what has gone on and Greer turns around and says that it’s no longer research exercise, they walk to a lift in and Greer pulls out a key and get the lift moving. Ryan then gives Greer the information about the silent propulsion system but Greer already knows they have submarine tailing the October and they have lost it now. He then hands Ryan paperwork and tells him to read it.

The paper says that most of the Russian submarine fleet are out, The lift stops and Greer gets out Ryan stay still reading pages but within a few seconds then head down Ryan walk after Greer,Then Ryan stops Reading to notice a sign saying White House briefing and only then asks were they going it a briefing for a Jeffrey Pelt national Security advisor and a few other people, Ryan asks who giving the briefing Greer tells him he is all he’s got to do is talk. as he’s the only one who truly understands the information about the submarine.

Nervously Ryan stumbles through the briefing about how in the last 24 hours the Russian navy have been acting strangely first the Red October took to sea and her propulsion system. He then says it’s enabled the red october to slip past the Dallas at the same time the Russian navy put to sea. There are now 58 nuclear submarines heading into the North Atlantic, A man at the head of the table asks Greer want conclusions can be drawn he thinks it could be an exercise to of the people at the table do not believe it so,

A second man then says Ramius sent the head of the Russian fleet a letter, Ryan tell Greer that it’s Ramius’s wife uncle, The contents of a letter are unknown but after a meeting with the Russian Premier the fleet was ordered out to look for the Red October and sink her.

All the voices on the table Talk at once they all think that ramius is a madman, but Ryan and Greer just watch, then something in Ryan’s head gives him an idea he ask Greer the date which is the 23th he hits the table with the flat of his hand and everyone stops talking and look at him.

The man at the head of the table asks if he would like to add anything else to the discussion and Ryan says there may be another possibility, Ramius maybe trying to defect to which one of the admiral s try shoot down but the head of the table tells Ryan to carry on, right then goes on to explain the Ramius has train most of the officers aboard his ship and has put in place people that can help him and the fact that he’s not Russian but in fact Lithuanian raised by his grandfather a fisherman he has no children no ties and today is the first anniversary of his wife death, Again the admiral trys to
stop Ryan.

But Ryan tells him that he knows Ramius and has meet him once, the admiral moves back in his chair. The guy at the head of the table asks how long does Ramius you have to be in the position to be able to launch his missiles and the answer is four days. The head of the table ends the meeting but tells Ryan to says, He wants to know want Ryan has planned simple grab the boat but is not an airplane is a huge submarine.

They need contact the American submarines directly if the Russians get hold of what they have planned things will go Rye next they have to devise a plan to get a few people on board call to Coast Guard inspection and third some how contact Ramius directly and find out what his plans truly are. And the answer the other guy comes up with is when does Ryan leave, to which Ryan is no best please about pointing out that he is only analyst and had no field training. But no matter Ryan is going.

The differences between the book and the film –
There are many differences in this chapter that the one in the book the first one being the place, in the book it takes place in the white house and deep inside the Situation at the presidents request, but here we have Greer leaving Ryan into a unknown building and only when they are half way there does Ryan question wants going on.
Second is Ryan himself he’s the only speaker here but in the book Ryan is introduced by Judge Moore then goes in the speech which in the book is an extremely huge technical exercise he also mentions going to see Skip and he’s the one who tells the president about the letter Ramius sent.
Third the history that Ryan gives to explain Ramius actions, in the book it was his grandmother that raised him and the fact his father was a good Party member but meeting a fisherman on the coast decided him to take On A Life at Sea, Yet here it was his grandfather a fisherman, Also the timeline is kicked out the window the book is spread out over the course of 18 days and few years have past since the death of Ramius’s wife here its the first anniversary and Jack is given three days.

What I think -Well the flim has just become a pressure cooker, with the weigh of it all now squarely on Ryan shoulders, In the book he’s a bookman more about the numbers and the what if ideas, we the people around him giving, him ideas and information to work with.
He still understands the man Ramius but the flim shows him a man of off the wall thinking taking hold of the Red October was Skip Tyler idea and only then after doing some research.
The fact that the president is not seen in this meeting does somewhat change things Ryan is shown to be the smartest man in the room the Admirals a fixed on the idea of what ramius could do with the nuclear missiles he has and it’s writing that says he may be detecting.
I can understand why they did this make Ryan the reluctant star of the story it works very well if your trying to establish a character study of what a man can do given the right tools.
Also Ramius’s history tweaked little bit so Ryan can have his moment of insight pushing the man at the head of the table into action.

I know it’s a long blog entry for something which is really a very short scene and only serves a purpose to drive home the point that Ryan is a very clever person and has the ability to work outside the box as it were. but it also changes the slow pace for the book into a action driven Blockbuster film.

Well that’s your chapter from the Red October flim for is week, as always if you have done thanks for reading and I hope you can join me next week for chapter five called Sub Plots.

All The Right Words – The Hunt For Red October By Tom Clancy – DVD – Chapter Two – Two Keys One Safe.

The blog following  has spoilers for the Tom Clancy flim The Hunt For Red October this your one and only warning.

Based on Tom Clancy’s bestseller directed by John McTiernan starring Sean Connery and Alec Baldwin, The Hunt for Red October seethes with high tech excitement and sweats with the tension of the men who holds doomsday in their hands.

A new technologically superior Soviet nuclear sub the red october he’s heading for the US Coast under the command of Captain Marko Ramius, the American government thinks Ramius is planning to attack a long CIA analyst has a different idea he thinks Ramius is planning to defect, but he has only a few hours to find him and prove it because the entire Russian Navy and Air commands are trying to find him too the hunt is on !

Chapter Two – Two Keys One Safe 0:12:46 – 0:18:53


We are shown Marko ramius as he walks from the conning Tower down there’s about the ship to the main Bridge and all the crewmen, move around him heading to there stations. when he gets the centre of the room Captain Borodin tells him its time open the orders (in Russian with English subtitles) but also points out the political officer (Peter Firth) is his cabin as well, entering the cabin Ramius asks the office exactly why his sit down in here answer the answer he gives is privacy is not the major concern in the Soviet Union, ramius is that not best pleased with the answer and then the political office begins to read from a book


Behold I am becoming as a thief and they gathered them together in a place called Armageddon … the seventh angel poured forth his bowl the air and a voice cried out from the heaven saying ‘it is done’
A man with your responsibilities reading about the end of the world
I have become death the destroyer of worlds


As this happens the camera goes into the political officer and slowly turns out and both men and now speaking English so there is no need for subtitles .


Ramius answers is that he’s ancient Hebrew text quoted by an American putting the political officer then questions an American and put his answer is he invented the atomic bomb and was later accused of being a communist.

The political officer is under the mistaken impression that it is Ramius, Who wrote and underlined the passages and says it is his late wife who did so, Putin then  apologize for the mistake and said it was terrible accident what happened to Ramius  his wife and that he’s only doing his job, Ramius then wants to know how many officers KGB or otherwise are on his boat the political officer then points out that it’s not his boat it belongs to The people of the Soviet Union.And besides the KGB other parties work to put people on board the boat he would be the last one to know, It is time to open the safe ramius open the first door and remove the key from his pocket then turns to Putin who hands over a key from around his neck, 

Putin then reads out the orders their are Rendezvous at marked location with a second submarine and Putin points out the captain of which was a student of Ramius, once there they are to test the Caterpillar drive and return to the dark on or between the 16th, Putin is happy and stands up walking to the door, but Ramius who has been pouring tea stops him, by pulling him backwards and simply snapping the gentlemans neck, to cover the crime he then throws tea onto the floor and replaces the orders with ones from his pocket. He then calls Doctor Petrov telling him there has been a terrible accident.

The differences between the book and the film.
The first major difference between the book is in the fact that the political officer hasn’t no name at no point does ramius or Borodin use the man name, all that happens is ramus walks through the ship to be informed that the political officer is already sat in the captain’s cabin. Yet in the book the political officer is stood with Borodin and then walks with the captain in to the cabin. Also Ramius show giving orders before walking out of the bridge but here everything happens around him and his main priority is find out the orders. 

Establishing the fact that ramius likes to have half trained officers or farmboy’s straight out of the Academy is another difference only to be later altered to the fact that the political officer says the captain of the ship they are about to rendezvous with was once an ex student of Ramius.

The Bible verse that Ramius wife has supposedly wrote and underline is shorthand for the conflict that ramius is now feeling between the motherland and his own ideas, and in fact in the book the political officer has no knowledge of Ramius wife accident, and finally the way ramius kills the political officer in the book he kicks his legs from underneath and he knocks his head against the bulkhead table but here ramius comes from behind the gentlemen and one swift movement breaks the man’s neck.

What I think.
As before we have the same basic plot as chapters in the Book Ramius and the political officer have a conversation one of them ends up dead and the other replaces his original orders, but the ramius we are shown in film is subtly different to the ramus in the books. Ramius in the books is a more hands on officer shown giving orders and to have already established a working relationship with many of the crew. Who goes out of his way to shape the young minds on his boat. But on the film we have man that stands apart who’s men already know there work assignments, and who has a dislike for the political system much like in the book.

The political office of the book is more of a cypher trying to integrate himself into the crew rather than stand outside and report what he says to his superior officers trying to be liked. the one on flim however has no such redeeming features, it is shown has access to every member of the group including the captain personal Effects he reads Ramius wife’s journal and then says he is only doing his job. And then fakes insincerity when trying to apologise the death of Ramius is his wife.

It is a very neat trick for the Russian characters to begin the film speaking Russian only subtitling the more important parts and then using a known Bible verse to switch to English so it is not a very caring effect when suddenly they can speak perfectly clear and be understood by everybody.

This chapter of the DVD takes place on two sets, Ramius walking though the bridge of the submarine and then to his cabin, for the whole 6 1/2 minutes which I am guessing for a blockbuster for that time was unheard, just two people talking and ending with a death.

Well want was the two keys one safe chapter next week will be caterpillar drive which I hope you can join me for. As always if you have done thanks for reading and see next week.